roberto avon
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maybe I am reading too much
by roberto avon inwhile i was reading a book ( picture emclosed ) some toughts came up in my mind.
brothers in the usa are not allowed to have a moustache unlesse it concerns coloured brothers but white brothers are allowed to have a beard if they are bold ( i read it on this forum ) so i am very sorry for the coloured brothers who want a beard, no way!.
in france, brothers are allowed to have a beard and in scandinavia " longer " hair ( i would like to advise " worlds apart " a very interesting movie about shunning ).. so if a french, coloured brother moves to scandinavia and let his hair grow and then .
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maybe I am reading too much
by roberto avon inwhile i was reading a book ( picture emclosed ) some toughts came up in my mind.
brothers in the usa are not allowed to have a moustache unlesse it concerns coloured brothers but white brothers are allowed to have a beard if they are bold ( i read it on this forum ) so i am very sorry for the coloured brothers who want a beard, no way!.
in france, brothers are allowed to have a beard and in scandinavia " longer " hair ( i would like to advise " worlds apart " a very interesting movie about shunning ).. so if a french, coloured brother moves to scandinavia and let his hair grow and then .
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roberto avon
while I was reading a book ( picture emclosed ) some toughts came up in my mind
Brothers in the USA are not allowed to have a moustache unlesse it concerns coloured brothers but white brothers are allowed to have a beard if they are bold ( I read it on this forum ) so I am very sorry for the coloured brothers who want a beard, no way!
In France, brothers are allowed to have a beard and in Scandinavia " longer " hair ( I would like to advise " worlds apart " a very interesting movie about shunning ).
So if a french, coloured brother moves to Scandinavia and let his hair grow and then
goes to Italy for a couple of monts and wants to attend the meetings at the local congregation, is he allowed, without cutting hair, moustache and beard?If you Asian?
I can't stop worrying about this and think will have another sleepness night.
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Sign of the Time of the End ---> Armagaddon
by Waiting4TheKingdom infive events to come and to watch for:.
1 world leaders say peace and security!
- they "say" this but may not fully "achieve" this.
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roberto avon
Waiting4thekingdom; so this is what you are saying since 150 years! Do you really believe this? Don't you believe that 150 years of false predictions are enough to stop announcing this " nonsense "? Can you give us an idea of how long it will take, are we speaking about months or years? Make a guess and give us a date...
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Right Wing growth in UK and Europe.
by snare&racket inanyone else finding it troubling?
anyone feel it represents their views?.
is it being reported in usa/australia etc?.
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roberto avon
not everywhere in Europe, for example in Holland the result of the right wing party of Geert Wilders was very disappointing but I aspect a
good result of Marine Le Pen in France and the anti Europe party of Grillo in Italy which is not a right wing party. People in Europe are fed up with the burocrats in Brussels and blame them for not reacting and resolving the economic crises. in my country ( Italy ) we suffer from a too strong Euro that is slowly destroying our complete manufacturing industry. I hope this vote can be some kind of a warning that enough is enough!
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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.
by Julia Orwell ini'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.
it's called the opal ring.
i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.
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roberto avon
really nice reading, Julia. I look forward for what is coming next.
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Jehovah's Witness Tragedy - a series of installments.
by Julia Orwell ini'm working on a short story/novella about a jw family.
it's called the opal ring.
i will be posting it in installments, and would like some feedback on it.
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roberto avon
Julia Orwell,
really nice and interesting reading! I just can't wait for the next chapter.Village Girl, very good advice. I also wrote a book about my life among the Jw's even if my English is very poor. From next september I will take Enflish lessons and try to to reach a decent level so that I can re-write my book. I wrote it in English, changed names of persons and places, because my wife is still in ( very liberal ).
Also for me, wrting the book was at therapy.What I did was starting the book with a " glossary".
I explain in an ironic way all these silly Jw's words and expressions asProclaimers
You are trying to get your well deserved rest on Sunday morning after a
hard week and you hear the bell ringing? These ball breakers are publishers and they are trying to save your life so that you
can live forever on paradise earth with your wife and have a lion as a pet. So if you maybe
intended to get divorced from your wife, don't spend your money in
lawyers because the end of the world is coming right now. If you think to get divorced first and than enter in the JWs organization, be careful,
your new wife may be even worse and you will have to stay with her for
eternity.
Once in paradise, leaving your wife alone with the lion won't work( he
will eat only grass ), so you'd better get used to it. So just tell
them to go away because you are an apostate ( somebody who is against them)and they won't bother you anymore.What do you think about it?
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Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father
by Zana inmy wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.
my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .
sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.
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roberto avon
When my daughter was 8 or 9 she told her mother that she didn't believe in God
and that was terrible for her.
My daughter, was the only one of my kids who attended regurarly the meetings.
My wife used to tell her bible stories of the terrible yellow book but she preferred
my tales ( Peter Pan, Pinocchio, Grimm tales ). When my daughter was about 6 or 7 she didn't want to go to the Kh anymore and we didn't force her. I used to organize
her birthdays parties and together we baught the first christmas tree.
This is what I mean with compromise
My wife; yellow book, meetings and all the rest that Indon't know
Myself; birthday parties, christmas halloween
Maybe ai was lucky, by the way she is 26 now but she adores her mother and also her mother adores her.Let's not forget one thing, we married in 1987 when Armagheddon was very near ( 1914 generation ). So if she decided to marry me knowing that Armagheddon was near to come means she is very liberal.
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Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father
by Zana inmy wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.
my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .
sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.
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roberto avon
Hi Zana,
if you marry a Jws as an agnostic or ( ex ) catholic there is a middle road. At the beginning, as in my experience, Jws were much more involved in our lives than after that my grown up children deicded they were agnostic or atheist, now there is almost no influence from the Wt anymore and we are " almost " normal."
I say almost because if you have these people around you ( family and members of the congregation ) things can change quickly. For example my wife was fading away but since here parents moved near to where we live ( same congreation of my wife ) I can notice a difference because my wife feels the pressure to attend meetings. Also ( whatnI didn't know but she told me ) her father tried to convince her to take the youngest kid ( 13 years ) to the KH.
But she replied that if the boy didn't want to she was not going to oblige him. As you see it never stops...
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Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father
by Zana inmy wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.
my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .
sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.
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roberto avon
Phrow, you make it seem very simple and easy. Unfortunately it isn't. I was succesful with all my kids till now and 90% of the things you said I also did.
I stepped on my toes when I had to but I have a lot of examples in Italy where the children chose the jw religion. I was the one who compared Jws with al qaeda sleeper cells. They go to a friend or family member of yours, maybe after 3,4 or 5 years and speak to them while facing a difficult moment or depression and selle thei
paradise on earth tale. Before you know it,'s loo late.A lot also depends on how your kids are. My daughter, when she was 8 or 9, told her mother that she didn't believe in god.
You and I succeeded to keep them out of the cage but Imhave to admit that I was lucky and also thanks to my wife who agreed or accepted my kids doing judo, soccer, boxe, dance lessons, chess, heavy metal ( this was very difficult for us ).
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Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father
by Zana inmy wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.
my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .
sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.
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roberto avon
Hi Pbrow,
you are right and it is what I did ( a big part of what you told ) but you forget that maybe the " jw " mother doesn't want the children
to celebrate birthday parties, go out with wordly friends and so on.
You have to find a compromise with your wife because if you don't ( usually they spend more time with the kids )
they surely will start to indoctrinate the kids.
